USE OF HERBICIDES IN THAILAND (EXPOSED/UNCOVERED) - GOVERNMENT COVER-UP DISCLOSED
  Classied Secret Use of Herbicides in Thailand (Exposed)
Government attempted to cover-up use of herbicides in order to deny veterans
disability compensation ..
Agent Orange Drum and a Soldier


Thailand Vets
for Equal Treatment

Classied Secret
"Eyes Only Top Secret Sensitivity"
See
Cambodia cover-up...

Lt Audie Leon Murphy, promotion of his autobiography on WWII, To Hell and Back! Army Disgrace

Buk Frank, Your Veteran Advocate Frank Picchione, your advocate "Buk" Frank
Vet Advocate
(702) 363-3290
Army Bio

"All advocate services
our provided
to veterans
free of charge"

SP/6 Picchione -- your Veteran Advocate
Company Clerk
1968 & 1969
Korat/Satahip
Thailand
Army Engineers


PCS .. the Army way .. taxi service provided by the U.S. Air Force
For Thailand Vets
Under the current provisions
of the law administered
by the V.A.,
"visitation" to Vietnam
is defined as
any period of time
on the ground in Vietnam,
and not limited to that in a capacity such as TDY, but intransit, plane landed; doors open and you remain seated.

Emergency Leave
Did you go home
on emergency leave?
Via military cargo aircraft,
eg, C-141?   Or, C-5A?
If so, it is likely that the route taken (either way) was via Vietnam.   See Route Map

SP/4 Picchione .. on the ground, MAC flight refueling on the way to Thailand "707 Freedom Bird"

SP/4 Picchione .. waiting for connection flight to Thailand from Vietnam/Ton Son Knut Enlisted Suite

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Other Citations

Remand *

"The principal question, given this change in the regulations, is whether the evidence shows he served or visited Vietnam in February 1974. If so, then the diagnosis of diabetes and a determination of the disease manifested at a 10 percent rate would entitle him to service connection for diabetes."

* Learn from ..

Phillipines

"2. The veteran had "service in Vietnam", as his plane stopped in Vietnam while en route from California to the Philippine Islands in March 1966."

The veteran has provided statements that on his flight from California to Thailand in March 1966, his plane landed in Vietnam and the doors of the plane were opened. Although the original travel documents submitted by the veteran do not reflect that his plane landed in Vietnam while en route to Thailand, one of the normal flight paths to Thailand from California included stops in the Philippine Islands and Vietnam. The Board finds the veteran's statements both competent and credible. Hence, the Board finds that the evidence is in equipoise on the question of whether the veteran had "service in Vietnam" as defined by regulation, and he is therefore entitled to the presumption that he was exposed to herbicide agents during service in 1966. See 38 U.S.C.A. § 5107(b) (West 2002); 38 C.F.R. §§ 3.307(a)(6)(iii), 3.313(a) (2003).

Other Granted Appeals

Peripheral Neuropathy (Lower Extremities)

Lung Cancer

Histiocytic Type Malignant Lymphoma

Diabetes Type II - Clark (TDY)

Diabetes Type II - Guam

Death

"A July 1995 lay statement, from L.D.S., indicated that the veteran had been stationed with L.D.S. at Ubon Royal Thai Air Force Base, Thailand, from 1971 through 1972. It was noted that they had flown together on AC-130 gunships and that they routinely flew multiple sorties in support of ground forces in South Vietnam during the North Vietnamese 1972 offensive. L.D.S. also recalled that they had landed in South Vietnam to rearm and refuel and that Ton Son Nhut Air Base, Saigon, had been their most frequent staging base."

NKP, Thailand
Immunoblastic Lymphoma

"Thus, having concluded that the veteran was exposed to herbicides while assigned to Nakhon Phamon from 1969 to 1970, not coincidentally concurrent with other entirely reasonable circumstances enumerated by the veteran, the Board finds that a doubt is thus raised which must be resolved in his favor, and in so doing, that service connection must be granted [for]"

RO Rebuttal
Deadline 16 Aug 07
.. come and gone.


Lesson One:   never write the V.A. with authority because they will stone-wall you every time; ignore the law, ie, above the law and in general,
cause you grief.

But, you've got to ask me first:
"Do I give a shit?"

Answer:   <bs> No.

When you are dealing with an agency that couldn't care less whether you die, get real sick, or in general, are poverty-stricten because of your service connection medical condition, wake up.

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NKP RTAFB

Aerial Photo #1
Aerial Photo #2
"Brown Oasis in a Jungle"
Perimeter
(Water Buffalo extra)
Hootch Area
(Dead vegetation)
NKP (1972) - Brown
Who can take responsibility for this mess?
U.S. Naval Mobile Construction Battalion Three (MCB 3)
Clearing the Jungle
Ground-level View
Opening Ceremony
Secret War
Laos POWs never freed
 
By Frank Picchione     US ARMY 16 Nov 6 6- 17 May 77   SEA/Thailand 17 Jan 68 - 10 Jan 70
Veterans Advocate Pro Bono
  Email Frank with your Affidavit of intransit via Vietnam PRINT CHECO BASE DEFENSE IN THAILAND REPORT EXTRACT IN SUPPORT OF YOUR THAILAND VET DISABILITY CLAIM Direct Cause vs. Presumptive (READ ME FIRST)
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PRINT CHECO BASE DEFENSE IN THAILAND REPORT EXTRACT IN SUPPORT OF YOUR THAILAND VET DISABILITY CLAIM Distribution List:   If the V.A. can not obtain a copy of this report, they are retarded!

No excuse for either the Army or the DOD, yep -- in the distribution, or military schools or special distribution to the Rand Corporation.     You want evidence?     Written by a USAF officer and faculty member of the USAF Academy, law professor?     How about a special series of historical reports on the Vietnam War, the CHECO SEA Project?     Now, if you run into some "wet back" V.A. staffer or worse, VSO .. VSO, give them a popsicle.     And, if they give you some jibberish about the "source being the Internet," politely (and diplomatically) as possible, tell them it is an official air force historical report and is so darn important (to cover up,) the government has attempted to keep in classified well after its normal life expectancy of 7 years...


Printing Tip

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FOIA/ROE Follow-Up 20 Dec 07

This is only the beginning ..     Correspondence     PRINT CHECO BASE DEFENSE IN THAILAND REPORT EXTRACT IN SUPPORT OF YOUR THAILAND VET DISABILITY CLAIM   Extract Release

From "Operations from Thailand" ROE, adjustments.


    We'll now describe the challenges presented by the "Rules of Engagement," ROE. Our editorial view is these were largely a mess made by the civilians in charge of the military, our beloved "suits." It is our view that the suits did more to obstruct the military conduct of this war than one can shake a stick at. It is a miracle of our men and women in the military that they defeated the North Vietnamese at just about every meeting.

Joint Publication 1-02, a "Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms," defines ROEs as follows:

    "Directives issued by competent military authority that delineate the circumstances and limitations under which United States forces will initiate and/or continue combat engagement with other forces encountered."

    Traditionally, ROE were applied to peacetime military activities. They were developed to describe the circumstances under which our forces could engage a force that proves to be hostile. The ROE was intended primarily as a self-defense set of rules.

    Not so in the Vietnam-Laos Wars. The ROE were designed to constrain our forces during war.   The ROE were a principal means by which the civilians in government, the suits, could control the application of US military force. We'll tell you why they felt compelled to do that in a moment..


Objective is hearings before Congress Oversight Committees
in both the House and Senate for Veterans Affairs


Lady Justice marred by the V.A. National Disgrace     Lying to Congress

The V.A. for 40 years has attempted to cover-up the use of herbicides in many Pacific regions in order to deny disability compensation to veterans serving there.     It is an atrocity that vets from Thailand affected amounts to probably over 500,000 air force and army personnel.

    Using the "government line," herbicide test spraying in Thailand were conducted only in 1964 and 1965 and in limited areas away from military installations where American forces lived and worked.     This, of course, was a lie and until this Extract was released in September, 2007
from the official air force report, will be disclosed
.

USE OF AGENT ORANGE FINALLY ENDED

Ended?   Oh yeah, 1971 .. June 30 .. I guess that is why Thailand got a great supply of the shit .. it became politically correct to deny the use in Vietnam and hell, no one knew what was going on in Thailand, so a perfect place to move the inventory to.

[possible] harmful effects on humans .. that politically correct statement, evidently, never stopped them from using these herbicides in Thailand where the DOD emphatically denied same.

[The Air Force] sought to keep that information from the public by managing news reports., ie, classified "Secret"???     Click!     The Air Force Captain (and author of the CHECO report) may be a Law Professor at the Air Force Academy, but the Air Force has far more experience in handling things, things "that never happended."

Use of Herbicides at the commander's disgression
Which way is it, Colonel???     Same response, different conclusions.
Question #4 and response on mosquito control???
Source:   SAF (Secretary of Air Force) response to Congressman Evans   (June 30, 2005 puppet.)

    When it comes to the topic of the use of herbicides, as the above statement implies, you can be sure that the commanders remained vague.     Congressman Evans requested the information in 2005, and via the FOIA, we were able to uncover the most explicit document anywhere as to the use of herbicides in Thailand during the period 1968 thru 1972.

"There is also irrefutable evidence that the veteran served in Thailand for an extended period, based on entries in service medical records, and it is noted that he offers credible testimony that he was involved in the transport, as well as the loading of trucks and aircraft, with tanks of defoliants and was assigned the duty to spray a defoliant in areas surrounding his barracks at his base camp in Thailand.   Such is not inconsistent with his documented military occupational specialty of vehicle operator and dispatcher."

Source Claim No. 0301935       Vegetation problem?   No -   K9 Cemetery @ 2002!


    During the escalation of the Vietnam war, my job was company clerk in an army engineer unit that was involved in counterinsurgency and construction of military installations and support of the air force for POL tanks in bases in Thailand.     Specifically, our special unit laid pipelines for petrol and sewage in camps.     We have laid a 50-mile pipeline for the 1st Air Cavalry in Anh Khe, Vietnam in 1967.

    My two-year tour in Thailand saw the extreme conditions for "vegetation" or jungles and the overall seasonal monsoon conditions that made it literally a war to maintain defense perimeter clearings for the various bases in Thailand.     Until now, such testimony went without credit to the veteran, but with the official air force reports that were released (Extract Only) just last month (2007;) just obtained, we have evidence of the continuous use of herbicides in Thailand.

    This official air force report has been reviewed now over 4 times since creation in 1973 and remains for the most part, classified "Secret."     Why?     It is a disgrace that an action of FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) is what it took to find out the truth.

    It is rather ironic how many veterans' claims for exposure to herbicides based upon same in Thailand versus Vietnam have been denied, died of cancer or complications of diabetes.     The famlies of these veterans having their lives cut short denied survivor benefits like second class citizens.

    How could the government deny such claims?     The government has many departments that provide scientific and military resources that would tell them the obvious:   the conditions in Thailand were no different than in Vietnam.     The army has been uncovered to be the most abusive with disclosures in the United States in Alaska and Hawaii and then Canada as well as other Pacific regions such as Guam and Okinawa.     If it wasn't for these reports, Thailand veterans would be sacrificed as an expendable item of war.

    We are now ready to correct this wrong.     So, let's get started with the official military documents that disclose the use of herbicides in Thailand and hopefully, hearings before Congress to correct the compensation for those that have already died as well as retro pay for all surviving veterans from 1972.

See also:   Trilogy of Hypocrisy and Affidavits of Thailand Vets


 
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re:   USAF CHECO * Report "Base Defense in Thailand"

Kurt Priessman

Credit for getting the USAF CHECO Report via FOIA
MSgt Kurt Priessman, USAF (Retired)
  USAF CHECO Report on Thailand

USAF Guide for FOIA
USAF Guide for FOIA, an exemption
.. a right to a fair trial or an impartial adjudication
National Disgrace
The U.S. Government, DOD and V.A. have collectively
denied the access to necessary foundation information to
prove their claims of exposure to herbicides
in "Other locations" because they classified the records.
"Fox guarding the hen house.."
And, because I reported this "discrepancy" to the proper authority
that manages the DOD List,
doesn't make it right.
When filing your claim ..
Provide this CHECO Report Extract @ 21 Sep 2007
Indicate service in Vietnam or not, ie, Thailand only
Assert your rights to disability compensation for
exposure to herbicides in Thailand!
PRINT CHECO BASE DEFENSE IN THAILAND REPORT EXTRACT IN SUPPORT OF YOUR THAILAND VET DISABILITY CLAIM Thailand Vets Extract in Support of Claim
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    Kurt served in 1972 at U-Tapao RTAFB as a security policeman and dog handler.     Kurt recognized that many of the dogs were dieing from some form of cancer evidently a result of their exposure to the herbicides in Thailand (in Thailand.)     Later, I will attempt to tie in a security police website that identifies both the handlers and dogs assigned them and their "disposition."     After all, they were dogs .. expendable.     I think the government became so calous to such treatment that they thought that they could get away with abusing the veterans that served too.

* Contemporary Historical Examination of Current Operations   (CHECO)

re:   CHECO Report Cover Letter to Kurt     Footnotes     Table of Contents

BASE DEFENSE IN THAILAND USAF CHECO REPORT EXTRACT DE-CLASSIFIED BY AFDO

"Releaseable Extract of
Base Defense
in Thailand"
21 Sep 2007   AFDO
BASE DEFENSE IN THAILAND USAF CHECO REPORT EXTRACT DE-CLASSIFIED BY AFDO

U.S. Air Force Publications:   Vietnam War Bibliography

"USAF Operations from Thailand" CHECO (TOP SECRET)

  Point in Fact    The Army moved in around 1961 and began construction projects all over Thailand from Thai military support, bases, camps, and Friendship Highway to link the Deep Water Port in Satahip (bypass Bangkok) and feed the Air Force installations in Korat, Udorn and NKP.

Most of these camps are active, turned over to the Thai counterpart.

If anyone thinks that the USAF CHECO report marks the only years (1968-72) that our government employed the use of herbicides, you don't know how well our government/army covered up this liability issue.

Today, the VA denies disability compensation to veterans that served in support of the Vietnam War; in the Pacific theatre and have made beggers out of most of them until they die.     It truly is a national disgrade.     See Army Disgrace.

  Army/Air Force Military Installation Proximity Chart
AreaAF BaseArmy Base       "Vintage 1967"
SatahipU-Tapao Camp Samae San, Deep Water Port, Vayama Map
KanchanaburiThai ArmyTestimony from Dick Okland Vietnam/Thai Vet
CentralTakhliLop Buri Special Forces
CentralKorat Camp Friendship, USARTHAI
NortheastUdorn/NKP Camp Ruam Chit Chai, Sakon Nakon,
Camp Sinthope Sarakham, ASA, CIA
7th RRFS Unit   Camp   (20 km south) *
* Udorn RTAFB would have been a source of supplies and BX for the 7th RRFS.
CambodiaUbonASA, eg, Camp Mukdahan

Chapter III.   Physical Defenses and Limitations -   Page 57

Herbicides employed during 1968 to 1972

Herbicides employed during 1968 to 1972

Chapter III.   Physical Defenses and Limitations (Continued) -   Page 58



mounted NODs,     Unfortunately, no base had sufficient numbers of these devices

to permit visual observations of the entire base perimeter.     To further aid

in observation, herbicides were employed to assist in the difficult task

of vegetation control.
    Use of these agents was limited by such factors

as the ROE and supply problems.     Excerpt of Page 58     ROE = Rules of Engagement

Limitations -   Page 64,   Page 66, and Page 67
Physical Defenses and Limitations
Physical Defenses and Limitations

Korat RTAFB -   Page 68,   POL Tanks (near town)   Page 74   Pp 74-75 and Overall - Pp 69-78
Physical Defenses and Limitations - Korat RTAFB
JUSMACTHAI - Mission Policy on Base Defense
Note:   Declassified 3 Dec 07, a 1 Nov 69 Directive

">UBON ROE

SOIL STERILIZATION

NKP HERBICIDES
   
Who knew what and when .. National Security Council

Memo to ..     Memo     Continued     s/Henry Kissinger   .. 37 years ago (Declassified 2/13/07)

"Herbicides were used for all defense perimeters
on military installations in S.E.A."

Hand-held chemical tanks and helicopters fitted with spray bars were the common delivery system other than the air force defoliation missions in the jungles of S.E.A.

The following memo from Henry Kissinger (National Security Council) to both the Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense speaks of the Vietnamization issues as they apply to a regular supply channel for the acquisition of the herbicides for such perimeter defenses.

NSDM 141

Memo to ..     Memo     dtd 14 Feb 72; declassified 14 Feb 07 (35 year anniversary)

NSDM 35

The Term Chemical and Biological Warfare (CBW) will no longer be used.

"Reflection of the Times" - November, 1969     Note:   Classified "Top Secret"

Memo to ..     Pg-2     Pg-3     25 Nov 69; declassified 13 Feb 07

NSDM 112

U.S. Post-Vietnam Policy on use of Riot Control Agents and Herbicides in War - "Secret/Eyes Only"

Memo to ..     Pg-2     7 Jan 71; declassified 8 Feb 07

1 Dec 71 Memo from White House, re:   NSDM 112; Geneva Convention

Memo to ..     Pg-2     Pg-3     DOD Study on Military Utility of Herbicides     Pg-5    

DOD Study on Riot Control Agents     Pg-7     Pg-8     Pg-9     Pg-10    

Military Application of RCA     Selected Examples of RCA Use in Southeast Asia    

Pg-13     Pg-14     Pg-15    

What else does our government not want us to know?
 
697th Troopers after a hard day constructing petro tank farms for the USAF
697th Troopers after a hard day constructing petro tank farms for the USAF
U-Tapao RTAFB perimeter
Road construction through the jungles of Thailand
From POL tanks to base perimeter "defoliation" control

Note the access road with vegetation not cut back versus the 3rd row perimeter photos

Top right-hand corner:   defines "jungle"
U-Tapao RTAFB perimeter
U-Tapao access road
U-Tapao thru the years ...
  1966     1967     1968     1971     1973     1976     2002 -   K9 Cemetery

NKP (1966)   1963 - Navy Engineers clear the jungle
NKP (1966) Construction     NKP (1966) Bunkers     NKP (1966) Radio Station
NKP (1966) Main Base Area     NKP (1966) Hq Area     NKP (1966) Hootch Area
NKP (1966) Flight Line

    From May 1966 thru July 1966 , I was TDY from Clark AFB to Nakon Phanom.     We were Radio Relay tech/s with the 5th Tactical Control Group setting up equipment and preparing for take over by permanent party.

    Recently , I was diagnosed with type II diabetes,and so I went to the VA to register and see if I could get some help.     Believe it or not the people at Hines Hospital were very helpful and gave me the papers for application for compensation.     I have contacted the local rep from the state of Illinois and he, too, was of great assistance.     He took me through the process and filed my application for me.

    As I began my research, it seems as though my chances of compensation are slim, but I know I must make every attempt to gain the aide and compensation that we served for.     I saw your note on the TVVET website and as per our subsequent phone conversation, here are several photos that I took during my assignment in May, June, and July of 1966.     The pictures show the area around our barracks and work areas.     It appears obvious now that there is nothing growing in what was a jungle.

Al Infante
4512 Black Partridge Ln
Lisle,Il 60532
630 292-5691  
Al Infante, NKP Vet

Kennels Area   Base Perimeter   Ops Center   End Runway   Aerial

"Brown" was in,
and I am not talking about
the airman's spify tan.

    A nostalgia look at Udorn RTAFB will show anyone with a decent computer that things were "brown."
No need to adjust your set.

SEA Airbases Map     Runway Photos:

Final Approach  
Photo #1  
Photo #2  
Photo #3  
Photo #4  
Cockpit on Approach  

Aerial/Perimeter Photos:   Aerial     Perimeter  

Other Aerial:   Compound Area     "Brown"     Clouds    

    Living in a "World of Brown," tropics, rain (and women) wasn't so bad .. as long as you were ignorant of your final fate years after service.

Ubon RTAFB - Ranch Hand Sorties     Defense!     AC-130 Spectre

Lived   and   played in it.     Worked in it;   all around us.     Visit the A2 Pad.     Bomb Dump     Aerial

Even the civilian Red Buses started to look "brown."     The Monsoons didn't have much affect either.

Now, downtown looked a lot better, but you knew that was the case already, green.

From the rooftops, you could see for miles around, nothing but green:   green #1;   green #2.


Takhli RTAFB Perimeter
No .. that brownish-red is not rust.

(It's death waiting to happen.)

Army Aviation - Korat
Flight Line Operations
"What did I tell'ya about storing
those 55-gallon drums here?"


Korat RTAFB - 2nd only to U-Tapao RTAFB in Satahip


    Korat was a staging area on the great plateau of Thailand with the home of the air force fighter wing, a fall-back area for 2nd level hospital care from Udorn and staging area of an American army division, the 25th "Tropical Lighting" from Hawaii.     Red Horse, or the 556th CES was stationed in Satahip at U-Tapao RTAFB, but had five detachments at the other major air force installations.

    Army/Air Force intertwined in Korat much like operations in Satahip, but Red Horse did not have the expertise to build the POL Tank Farm just off the main road to town and walking distance from this area was my home, home of the 44th Engineer Group (Construction,) a 2-batalion subordinates as well as several engineer specialization outfits including "Pipeline."     The 697th Pipeline went all over Thailand to perform tasks for the air force and even went TDY to Korea for a pipeline and earlier a pipeline for the army to An Khe from the coast to supply fuel for the 1st Air Cavalry.

    I bring that up because the CHECO report authors either made an observation or interviewed those "in the know" that the strategic location of the POL Tank Farm was very poorly situated for sapper attacks.     In fact, there was hardly any perimeter defense to rely upon and it was like an "arm" outside the main area of the airbase.     In 1968 while we were based in Korat, everything was going well, but I guess things started to "pop" in 1969 which compounded the problem because of its proximity to civilian residential area and using herbicides with such deadly toxic levels must have caused a lot of liability.

Korat Photos       "Vintage 1967"     Kennels;   Handlers

Perimeter,   State-side Living;   aerial shot gives you an idea f theiv of army/air force encampment,
and of course, your "basic brown" around the runways:   #1,   #2,   #3, and #4.

 
Physical Defenses and Limitations - Korat RTAFB
This should really be common sense, but when it comes to the VA, and the DOD, all bets are off.

Re:   Early 60's Construction Phase .. carving out of jungles

      NKP RTAFB (1962-63)   Naval MCB 3   (Mobile Construction Battalion 3)

      Camp Friendship (for Thai Army in 1964-65)   9th Logistics Command and 44th Engineer Group
      Korat (where 50,000 55-gal drum storage unit project planned)

      Camp Samae San (for Thai Army in 1966-67)   44th Engineer Group thru 1969
      Satahip Cantonement Area Complex in Satahip

When?     1961-62.     No .. you mean, all that early 60's construction of bases in the Far East occurred with the "aid" of herbicides?!     I'm shocked.     Next, you are going to tell me there is a "Secret" USAF CHECO Report that talks about the base perimeter defenses being secured with the use of herbicides.     Ha!     Gee, what a joke .. if you are skeptical, visit the DOD List -- that's should prove absolutely nothing ...

    // END OF REPORT -- I REST MY CASE //

Beyond this report - Cronological Order of Events
Report to Congress:   Inequities in Treatment
of Vietnam (Era) Veterans
- the Exclusion of Thailand Veterans

Complete Report
 
PDF of Atrocity Cover Cover Sheet     PDF of Testimony of Thailand Veterans Testimony   Veteran Testimony (Accounts)

The V.A. denied over 200 Thailand Veterans appeals and no one knows how many other claims where the veteran just gave up on initial denial.
 
Kanchanaburi

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: Checo Report and Thailand

SA WA DEE!   Hello!   My name is Richard Okland and I was stationed north of the famed Bridge over the River Kwai with the 556th LMC.     We trained and supported the Royal Thai Army Black Panther Division which was later sent to Vietnam in early 1969.     We lived at tent city for 3 months before our permanent cantonment area was completed.     We lived in tents from 7 Feb 1968 thru the end of April 1968 and then we moved to Camp Kanchanaburi just up the road from tent city. We stayed there until 1 July 1969 when Camp Kanchanaburi was turned over to the Royal Thai Army for thier use.     We used herbicides extensively for base defense.     Agent Orange was the only chemical know that would deter Jungle growth. I see the Checo report has quite a few pages missing.     Isn't that ironic after all these years.     BUT, what they gave you is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.     I got this info sent to me from Marilyn Oliver. Take care!   God Bless!   - Dick Okland

Part II of Testimony

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Checo Report and Thailand

Hi Franco!   Its good to hear from you! Well, I was stationed at Camp Samae San from Dec 1972 when we closed our field team office at MACV HQ in Saigon and moved it to Camp Samae San.     I flew back and forth from Thailand until March of 1973 when I went back to Thailand and out and went back to the states and was stationed at fort Riley, KS (Bloody Red One) I have other folks who I believe would give you testimony as well.     One is Rex Huesties who transported a lot of chemicals from Sattahip Port to various camps in Thailand.     He is in real bad shape with fighting for his life because of his exposure.     Another one is Jose Miller, a PFC back then who rode on a dump truck when the engineers were constructing out airfield at Camp Kanchanaburi and he did actually spray Agent Orange on the bare before the PSP was laid down and then afterwards as well.     He retired as a Major.     The only time I was in Korat, or I should the many times I was there, was when we used to take 2 5-ton tractor and trailers and go from Kanchanaburi to the depot at Korat for supplies and repair parts for the Tech Supply I was in charge of at Camp Kanchanaburi.     After driving for about 3 months, I finally got some help and turned over the runs to those soldiers.

I went back to Thailand in April 2005 for 2 weeks and was a guest of the 9th Inf Div of the Royal Thai Army for a day and had the opportunity to visit our old camp site which is still being used to this day.     It was certainly memorable when I had the opportunity to go to the airfield and walked thru the same hangar.     WOW, that was something.     Also walked inside one of the 3 hootches that still remain in use to this day.     I also visited with Thida Loha, (Kulchaya Somprasong is her real name now) as Thida was a teenage girl helping out her father and mother at the Bridge over the River Kwai Restaurant, which is still in existence to this day.     Thida Loha owns the restaurant now and runs it.     I have made 3 DVD Editions of the 556th LMC from our teip crom Fort Bragg, NC to Thailand.     If you are interested, I can send them to you.   Take care!   God Bless!   - Dick Okland



Korat RTAFB

John Powell
- "The bomb dump inside and the perimeter when sprayed
with something as grass never grew there."

Michael Balash
- "In the entire 19 months * I was there, no vegetation grew back in these area that I patrolled."

* Sure does beat 2 hours at Ton Son Knut under the "presumptive exposure" provision.

Franco Picchione - Company Clerk
- "In my two year tour in Thailand, whether an air force base or army camp,
they all had one thin in common:   dead, brown grass that created dust condition;
early 1969, left Camp Friendship taking the new Friendship Highway to Satahip
on our motorcycle (advanced party) and from the road dust caked on my front
enjoyed a marvelous shower to rid my clothes and face of herbicides, etc."

Bob Davies     - "I was at Korat Air Base 4/65 to 4/66."
 
Mukdahan Radar Site

James Harrod
- "[herbicides] were used, on a continuing basis, to control and kill vegetation
growing throughout the site."

James Hopkins
- "I observed spraying of herbicides to control vegetation at "perimeter]"

Robert Baker
- "I remember that herbicides were sprayed around the perimeter and around the bunkers
of the camp on a regular basis to kill the foliage.

NKP RTAFB

David Wharton
- "I witnessed Defoliation Spraying Activities around the perimeter at NKP [airbase]"

Robert Lappin
- "[many] times I flew missions over defoliated areas."

Romeo Singleton
- "What I can remember seeing while stationed at NKP RTAFB,
was the outlying area of the base was defoliated like it had been sprayed."

Richwell Iso     - "I was stationed TDY at NKP and Ubon Thailand"

Tom Bjork - NKP Report     - "I was at Camp Ruam Chit Chai .."

Timothy Sturges     - "I served at NKP 72/73"

Sakon Nakon (Army)

Sidney Chancellor
- "We used a chemical spray during road construction to clear [foliage]"

Takhli RTAFB

Dale Everson
- "It struck me as strange that these bases were in a [jungle area]"

James Trapp
- "[assigned] duties in a base warehouse processing equipment and supplies.
We had I received an item of equipment that was [classified]"

Ubon RTAFB

James Ziats
- "I never saw anything growing in the perimeter fenc line."

Marty McCauley
- "Around the Bomb Dump and the Base Perimeter there were many areas
that vegetation did not grow.
[At] the CE compound they stored pallets with 55 gal drums with orange stripes on them.
Just before we closed the base these barrels disappeared."

Roger Fausey
- "There was no vegetation growing anywhere on the [base]"

Timothy Potter
- "After a sapper attack in July 1969, all foliage around the base,
in front of the perimeter and behind the perimeter, was either cut or sprayed."

Udorn RTAFB

Stephen Pippenger     Part II     Part III     Part IV
- "When we landed we thought it was a desert.
No sign of grean and the ground looked like it was dead." - Dog Handlers

U-Tapao RTNAB

John Kammer
- "During my year as a sentry dog handler 1969/1970,
much of the defenses along the perimeter road area was upgraded."

Joseph Provost     Part II
- "In an area, between the Baracks and the Barbed Wire fence line and the fence line and the jungle was just a barren dirt area, very unusual."

Jimmy Welch     - "I had a brief spell in Satahip, Thailand"

Conclusion

CLICK ON PHOTO TO SEE FULL-SIZE VERSION W/CLEARED JUNGLE ALONG THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

I find it very ironic under the circumstances that the court and V.A.
would deny benefits to Thailand veterans when their testimony
corroborated each others stories.

Furthermore, who is to deny those Thailand veterans
that served in the "early years" from 1961-1967
when these bases were under construction and herbicides used?
Logical .. common sense ...
re:   Korat - Bob Davies     - "I was at Korat Air Base 4/65 to 4/66."
Doesn't a court judge use the rule of common sense
where a party lies once, nothing more is considered.
At least, without evidence ...
The DOD has lied for four decades and no one knows to what extent.


Our (beautiful) government wouldn't allow such dioxins/toxins to be used
if they willing knew of the medical problems it would cause our soldiers.
No?     See Criminal Investigation of Monsanto Corporation
- Cover-up of Dioxin Contamination in Products
- Falsification of Dioxin Health Studies


Official Use Only - Memo on Award of Vietnam Service Medals for those that served in Thailand, U.S. Army The Vietnam Service Medal Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal

More on the history of the Army Engineers
    that served in Thailand.

p.s.   If you are thinking that that is the only period of counterinsurgency "exercises," you are (widely) mistaken.     On file @ 1 Aug 69 - 31 Oct 69 ..     I just love how naive citizens of this country are.

Thailand: anatomy of a counterinsurgency victory
From: Military Review | Date: 1/1/2007 | Author: Marks, Thomas A.

Quarterly Classified Report Document

44th Engineer Group/Declassified for Counterinsurgency Operations in 1969

 
To be continued ..

Frank Picchione, your advocate .. please email your contributions.   Thank you.

SP/6 Picchione -- your Veteran Advocate     697th Troopers - 2nd Platoon in formation
Nakon Phanom (NKP) RTAFB perimeter Perimeter of Camp Friendship     Map
Central - Korat Motif "brown"   Aerial
Camp Friendship Mess Hall
Cutting a camp out of the jungles
Camp Samae San (Satahip)     Map
NKP Flight Line (Northeast)  
7th RRFS *
  (Classified Army Site - defoliated)
CIA Lima Jumgle Landing Strip - Laos


U.S. Navel Seebee Unit - Mobile Construction Battalion (MCB 3) * ASA (Army Security Agency) Post defoliated Compound Area   (Deactivated)

Seebees can take credit for constructing NKP; Red Horse for maintaining runway

After Action Engineer Reports -   Storage Farm - Korat     Plumber's Helper **

561st Engr Co (DT) - Army Engineers provided the dump trucks.

Base Photo Gallery       "Vintage 1967"

** What to do with hundreds of 55-gallon (empty) drums.       Groundwater Contamination

"Herbicides were used in Thailand from 1961-62 to Closing (1975)" - Franco (That's a fact/Jack)

    Until you have experience the jungles of Southeast Asia (SEA,) you really can not get a feel for how thick it is.     And, for good reason.     The soil conditions for vegetation growth is far superior to most other areas of the world because of the heavy rain (monsoon) conditions annually.     Here I am on a trail visiting Nong Khai along the Mekong River in Northeast Thailand in 1995, little monks.     My next trip in 2003 included a trip to the Satahip Cantonment Area where I literally rode my scooter passed Camp Samae San three times before stopping to inquire.     The jungles had grown back in 30 years and it no longer had a motif like Las Vegas ... Photos to follow.     Chaing Mai/Mekong (1984)
Camp Friendship .. after spraying .. an oasis (desert) in the jungles of Thailand

    Mark Olson sent me some photos of Camp Friendship and my response was that as a young soldier, you didn't give much thought about the feeding or care of the terrain in the base camp because you have yet to enjoy the feeding and care of your own home yard, cutting the grass on a weekly basis, etc.     You may have thought what a lousy job they did because they not only cut the grass, but killed the damn stuff as it was burned brown and not a nice textured burmuda turf that you would be proud of.     You further acknowledged the rainy season and the daily "liquid sunshine" in the late afternoon just about on a daily basis and thought they need some real help or expertise in maintaining grass.     Just think for a moment, if it does that to vegetation (visually,) what it does to our body organs internally, and the water table below that was the source for the water we drank.     Exposure, I'd say so.
Camp Friendship (Korat):   wide angle 1;   close up.     Pipeline trench:   wide angle 2;   close up.     Do you get my drift on describing same as "Las Vegas motif"???

    In this early photo of the entrance to Camp Friendship, 9th Logistics Command unit patch, predecessor to the 44th Engineer Group (Construction) and U.S. Army Support Thailand (USARSUPTHAI,) you can get a feel for the soil alongside the roadway.     If you have ever visited Hawaii and seen the rich red soil that would grow anything .. this is after the task force engineers has come in and cleared the base camp for construction.     We didn't leave anything -- not even a coconut tree.

Northeast Thailand - 809th Engineers Country (and home of the USAF NKP RTAFB)

    Here is a photo of the road between Camp Raum Chit Chi and Camp Friendship in 1969 from a army helicopter, mountains.

Photo credits:   Local Nationals and U.S. Personnel, Mark Olson and plumber's assistant 3;   Art Woodward and helper, Tong.

Conclusion

    As you can see from these photos, whether you are a "city boy" or grew up on a farm, it isn't "rocket science" to see that something strange had been going on in Thailand and that the only way vegetation and jungles were tempered was deadly toxins, toxins that caused more grief to U.S. personnel as well as decades with the people 4 we were there supposedly there to help.

Footnotes

1   South Road on Camp Friendship.   (L-R) the Outdoor Theater, Football Field, the Indoor Sports Recretion Center being build, and the 31st Field Hosiptal.
2   Hand dug trench for a sewer line for a new HQ on the South Side of Camp Friendship along the perimeter.
3   Tong, as a skilled plumber's assistant earned $1.60 a day while the other man $80 cents a day.
4   Vietnam Agent Orange Relief & Responsibility Campaign - [Today] that name inspires fear, but Hai was oblivious to the forces bearing down from the sky as he worked and essentially lived along the Ho Chi Minh trail until 1969. During that time, he and his fellow conscripts drank water and ate fish from local streams. “Many times while we were having our meals, planes came over us dropping the chemical spray,” he said. “Many comrades had diarrhea and respiratory problems.”

After the war, Hai returned to his home village and married a woman who had worked as an army communication assistant along the trail. Their first two attempts to have children ended in miscarriages; the third time around they had a baby girl. “We thought we’d finally be able to have some happiness,” Hai said. The girl died of cancer at the age of five.

See also Agent Orange and Peripheral Neuropathy ;   Agent Orange and Soft Tissue Sarcomas.

Dr. Barry Krupkin photo next to drum storage Pictured here in Vietnam is Dr. Barry Krupkin, Supreme National Commander of United Veterans of America (Notice the nice chemical drums). Dr. Barry Krupkin, SNC, Ph.D is an honored member of The Veterans News Hour Daily Advisory Board. His input and guidance is invaluable to the success of this Web Site. Thank you, Barry!

Thailand (Exposed)
Camp Friendship (Korat)
Army Aviation (Flight Line) *
Note:   55-gallon drums (on left) .. herbicides .. toxins .. cool aide

See Storage Farm Project * After Action Reports

See Plumber's account .. in Korat, Thailand (Camp Friendship)

* DOD Party Line on Herbicides in Thailand:   [only] some early tests [and, of course] nothng around "U.S. personnel."   Right.   See above CHECO Report.

Trivia Question for those VA Staffers that got hefty bonuses: **

    When was the last day of spraying in Vietnam and Thailand?     <beep> Times up!     Vietnam - 7 Jan 71; Thailand some 18 months later, ie, mid-1972.

** We know you guys are worth every cent of it (bonuses.)     In fact, when we reform the agency and have to let you go, we won't have to provide you with any severance package because you have already been overpaid!


 
  Congressman Inquiry to Air Force
re:   Herbicides Use in Thailand
  .. and the "False" Report
Agent Orange Drum and a Soldier


Thailand Vets
for Equal Treatment

 
Agent Orange Drum and a Soldier
Agent Orange Drum and a Soldier
Agent Orange Drum and a Soldier
Agent Orange Drum and a Soldier
Agent Orange Drum and a Soldier



 

Rep. Lane Evans official bio
Rep. Lane Evans, D-IL,
a friend to all veterans leaves Congress
due to bad health fight with Parkinson
for ten years.     Congresspedia

Rep. Evans was the Ranking Democratic Member of the House Committee
on Veterans' Affairs.     GovTrack

Lady Justice marred by the V.A.     It comes at no surprise that the government "left hand" doesn't know what the "right hand" is doing.
At least, in observing the President and Vice President.

    On June 30, 2005, an Air Force Colonel responded to an official inquiry made by Congressman Evans on behalf of veterans that served in Thailand regarding the potential exposure to herbicides.

    Unfortunately, the (good) Colonel did not know what he was talking about and this is outrageous for someone that has risen through the ranks and works at the Pentagon for the U.S. Air Force.     After all, our veterans in filing their disability claims for exposure to herbicides in Thailand deserve a better deal than having their claim shot down by someone in authority that obviously hasn't got the slightest idea what he is talking about.     Keep in mind, this is the "polite" version of what I really would like to say.

Claim Denied     After all, how many Thailand veterans have been denied their benefits because some jerk in a position of authority makes "false" statements?     And, the V.A. (and its adjudicators) stamp the claim denied.

    How many have died from the complications of their service connected (SC) medical condition without proper compensation as well as their surviving family members, ie, widows?

    For more details on the (bullshit) position the V.A. takes on such adjudications, click here.

    Now, brace yourself for the raw truth .. that the government misinforms, makes false statements, and in general, takes actions unfavorable to the veteran claimant.

    If there is any doubt whatsoever, you obviously did not start with the (official) USAF CHECO report on "Base Defenses in Thailand" at the top of this page.     You've got some reading to do before you can appreciate this section.     Note, in the FOIA inquiry made by Mr. Priessman that the response indicates (a) the documents provided were "sanitized" and (b) that there are portions either left out because they have yet to be de-classified (this 1973 report was not de-classified until last month, September, 2007)     Imagine, a court of law where the respondent to your claim does not have to respond in discovery.

    You are left in an adversarial situation without the legal tools to present your claim and the government has no obligation to you for penalties and interest on said claim.     No, you have not entered the "Twi-light Zone."     You have entered the world of reality with an incompetent, adversarial agency of the Executive Branch that at every opportunity will deny you your just disability compensation.

WASHINGTON, D.C. - PENTAGON:   SAF Letter   (June 30, 2005 Cover-Up)

    The Pentagon/Air Force responded to five (5) questions posed by the Congressman.     Let's take the irrelevant questions (responses) first and then get to the meat of the matter, use of herbicides in Thailand, denied.

    Question #1 as to where the aircraft (C-123s) were based is not important.     They could have been based at Hickam or CONUS and flown in daily for all we care.

    Question #3, ditto; squadron/aircraft based .. who cares?

    Question #4, again, a "smoke screen" and (helpful) reference to the GPO for further information is absurd and below a field grade officer responding to an inquiry by a member of Congress.

Relevant Issues

    Question #2   "To our knowledge, no herbicides were stored in Thailand."     Oh, really???     Huh?     Mosquito control .. what are they talking about???

Question #4 and response on mosquito control???

    And, the "non-responsive response to a buck shot inquiry."     The good Congressman, in an attempt to be thorough and at the same time specific as to the various herbicides used, eg, orange, pink, blue, purple, etc., the Colonel attempts to be responsive and ambiguous at the same time:

Use of Herbicides at the commander's disgression

    Accountability .. heavens know we can't have that.     As for "any more specific information," we don't need it now with the CHECO report in so much as we know (a) the air force installations are fairly large and therefore, (b) their perimeters would require quite a bit of:   herbicides to defoliate.

BBC News Nixon ordered Cambodia cover-up ...
The 50,000 pages of documents newly released show growing concern about the course of the war in Vietnam and the ability of the South Vietnamese government, in particular.     Sound familiar, ie, Iraqi government today???

POW/MIA Bracelet to adopt someone ... Why would CHECO reports
be classified "Secret"?

    When they are first written, they become a library of training material at military colleges.     The air force, for instance, reviews its classified document every 7 years.     So, when you see something like this report, "Base Defense in Thailand," that is over 35 years old -- it must have been reviewed for declassification five (5) times!     Now, you may be wondering, why so many years after the war and the information is relatively useless?     In my professional opinion, the answer is because the information would be useful to all types of legal actions by American veterans, Thai veterans, Thai civilians and of course, the affect on the government budget for additional disability compensation payments that they do not want to incur.     Yes, it is true that they would rather those that were affected die and go away.

    Now, that sounds pretty disgruntled because of your own treatment.     No, let's take a look at another CHECO report, "The Fall of Site 85," was classified "Top Secret, [for] Air Force Eyes Only;   Limited Distribution."     Here, you had a dozen air force airmen that "volunteered" for a hazardous assignment, all alone without any army support on a mountain in northern Laos along the border of North Vietnam.     The airmen were officially discharged from the air force and became civilian contractors for a highly classified federal contractor in aerospace with a mission to direct bombing missions in Hanoi.     The mission was so secret that the demise of the airmen was really never revealed and a book, "One Day Too Long" which was a miscalculation of the evacuation of these, obviously expendable, highly skilled in air force electronic equipment.     You see, there was really only one way in and one way out, and that was serviced by a helicopter pad cut in the jungles at the top of this mountain.     Remember, now -- the mountain was selected for its obvious critical geography location and the height and natural defenses of cliffs.     But, like the stupid use of herbicides during the war, the generals did not calculate the motivation of their enemy and the build-up of NVA regiments at the base of the mountain.     The poor souls working there just kept aiding air force bombers on their path to Hanoi.

    Recently, there was the discovery of the remains of one of these airmen that was overrun and left to die.     When the announcement on the news was made, it was simply a foot note that did more for the promotion of the labs in Hawaii then tell this airman's story.     To add "insult to injury," because of these air force airmen's special status as civilian contractors, the families of these airmen fought for years with the government for compensation and other benefits such as the children to be provided with higher education.     When I say "expendable," I wasn't kidding.

    See also The Government Practice of Cover-Ups ...     There is no end to the abuse of authority and military classification of documents.



 
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